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		<title>By: pstatho</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I looked at the emulator again and sync settings I found were only in OneNote. 

I agree that full SkyDrive integration with Office Web Apps is pretty important considering it&#039;s consumer focused. SharePoint is clearly aimed at business users, which they don&#039;t want to neglect either I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the emulator again and sync settings I found were only in OneNote. </p>
<p>I agree that full SkyDrive integration with Office Web Apps is pretty important considering it&#8217;s consumer focused. SharePoint is clearly aimed at business users, which they don&#8217;t want to neglect either I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Thurrott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Thurrott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks...

With regards to photo syncing, what I meant was that KIN would automatically sync full resolution photos to the web over the air, which is incredibly useful. Windows Phone will sync only low-res photos over the air to SkyDrive, which is barely useful (like if you want to just share over social networking) to useless (for true backup purposes, as was available on KIN).

I will (hopefully) be completing the Office chapter today, so I will soon look at the Office document sync stuff more closely. But I think this applies only to two things. You can do full sync via SharePoint only, which works just fine, but is a business feature. And you can sync notes in OneNote automatically to SkyDrive (but not Word docs, Excel spreadsheets, or PowerPoint presentations). I would love to be proven wrong on this, since I feel that full SkyDrive integration is as important/more important than SharePoint on day one. But I will make sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230;</p>
<p>With regards to photo syncing, what I meant was that KIN would automatically sync full resolution photos to the web over the air, which is incredibly useful. Windows Phone will sync only low-res photos over the air to SkyDrive, which is barely useful (like if you want to just share over social networking) to useless (for true backup purposes, as was available on KIN).</p>
<p>I will (hopefully) be completing the Office chapter today, so I will soon look at the Office document sync stuff more closely. But I think this applies only to two things. You can do full sync via SharePoint only, which works just fine, but is a business feature. And you can sync notes in OneNote automatically to SkyDrive (but not Word docs, Excel spreadsheets, or PowerPoint presentations). I would love to be proven wrong on this, since I feel that full SkyDrive integration is as important/more important than SharePoint on day one. But I will make sure.</p>
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		<title>By: pstatho</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@paul

Obviously you have ore details than what is available publicly, However while playing around with the beta version of the emulator, there is an option for office documents to sync back to the cloud. 

Also during the presentation at WPC, they mention that higher resolution images will be synced back once you are plugged. The lower res images is for OTA syncing:
http://digitalwpc.com/Videos/VisionKeynoteVideos10/2/BradBrooksAndAndyLees]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@paul</p>
<p>Obviously you have ore details than what is available publicly, However while playing around with the beta version of the emulator, there is an option for office documents to sync back to the cloud. </p>
<p>Also during the presentation at WPC, they mention that higher resolution images will be synced back once you are plugged. The lower res images is for OTA syncing:<br />
<a href="http://digitalwpc.com/Videos/VisionKeynoteVideos10/2/BradBrooksAndAndyLees" rel="nofollow">http://digitalwpc.com/Videos/VisionKeynoteVideos10/2/BradBrooksAndAndyLees</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Thurrott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Thurrott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SkyDrive is not integrated in any meaningful way for documents, a la the SharePoint stuff in the Office hub. (It should be.) That said, you can view and then save SkyDrive-based Office documents to the phone.

There is a KIN-like auto-save-to-SkyDrive feature for photos. Sadly, it&#039;s almost useless for backup since you can&#039;t opt to save full-res pictures. Which is absolutely unforgivable. A couple of other things related to this, but I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s public.

My guess is that they&#039;re moving toward a KIN Studio model, but it won&#039;t be there on day one, not like was on the KIN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SkyDrive is not integrated in any meaningful way for documents, a la the SharePoint stuff in the Office hub. (It should be.) That said, you can view and then save SkyDrive-based Office documents to the phone.</p>
<p>There is a KIN-like auto-save-to-SkyDrive feature for photos. Sadly, it&#8217;s almost useless for backup since you can&#8217;t opt to save full-res pictures. Which is absolutely unforgivable. A couple of other things related to this, but I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s public.</p>
<p>My guess is that they&#8217;re moving toward a KIN Studio model, but it won&#8217;t be there on day one, not like was on the KIN.</p>
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		<title>By: steveymacjr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Paul!
This is all real exciting!
I was wondering if you could say how integrated SkyDrive will be with the phone?  
Do you know if the Windows Phone portion will be partitioned off like the Windows LIve Sync portion is now?  Or, will you be able to freely move data between the two, and if you move say a photo from a Skydrive only folder to a Windows Phone Live folder, will it automatically appear on the phone?
Same goes with Office online docs.... Since the Hardware spec doesn&#039;t allow for external storage cards I was just wondering if the phone would make use of the Windows phone Live stuff as an integrated storage system(ala KIN)...

It seems MS has finally found a way to integrate all of their Products in the cloud and on the phone(Xbox, Office, Zune, Windows Live.)  And from the looks of the previews and announcements, it seems to be in a more cohesive manner than Google or Apple.... I wonder if Microsoft will get any credit for this..hmmm(try not to laugh)...


I wanted to clarify something for someone... According to Mary Jo Foley(and confirmed by MS) The Windows Phone LIve product doesn&#039;t make use of the Kin Studio yet... (SEE: Microsoft to offer free &#039;Find My Phone&#039; service for Windows Phone 7 &#124; ZDNet http://bit.ly/cXAC6l )  Although wouldn&#039;t it be cool if a hardware maker made a phone targeted at the same KIN demo but with a more full featured phone, and Used KIN studio(once it had been made available for WP7)...just a thought!

Keep up the good work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul!<br />
This is all real exciting!<br />
I was wondering if you could say how integrated SkyDrive will be with the phone?<br />
Do you know if the Windows Phone portion will be partitioned off like the Windows LIve Sync portion is now?  Or, will you be able to freely move data between the two, and if you move say a photo from a Skydrive only folder to a Windows Phone Live folder, will it automatically appear on the phone?<br />
Same goes with Office online docs&#8230;. Since the Hardware spec doesn&#8217;t allow for external storage cards I was just wondering if the phone would make use of the Windows phone Live stuff as an integrated storage system(ala KIN)&#8230;</p>
<p>It seems MS has finally found a way to integrate all of their Products in the cloud and on the phone(Xbox, Office, Zune, Windows Live.)  And from the looks of the previews and announcements, it seems to be in a more cohesive manner than Google or Apple&#8230;. I wonder if Microsoft will get any credit for this..hmmm(try not to laugh)&#8230;</p>
<p>I wanted to clarify something for someone&#8230; According to Mary Jo Foley(and confirmed by MS) The Windows Phone LIve product doesn&#8217;t make use of the Kin Studio yet&#8230; (SEE: Microsoft to offer free &#8216;Find My Phone&#8217; service for Windows Phone 7 | ZDNet <a href="http://bit.ly/cXAC6l" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cXAC6l</a> )  Although wouldn&#8217;t it be cool if a hardware maker made a phone targeted at the same KIN demo but with a more full featured phone, and Used KIN studio(once it had been made available for WP7)&#8230;just a thought!</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: vsameer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vsameer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait to get my hands on the device. I&#039;m a developer and I have looked at iPhone (admitedly a cursary glance) and Android(did play with it a fair bit, Java+Eclipse doesn&#039;t equate to performance, neither at developing or at runtime, sorry!)
But WP7 is gr8, technologically it&#039;s a lot superior to Android. And the whole experience seems very modern. I&#039;m enjoying working on my app. gr8 work from Microsoft.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Paul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to get my hands on the device. I&#8217;m a developer and I have looked at iPhone (admitedly a cursary glance) and Android(did play with it a fair bit, Java+Eclipse doesn&#8217;t equate to performance, neither at developing or at runtime, sorry!)<br />
But WP7 is gr8, technologically it&#8217;s a lot superior to Android. And the whole experience seems very modern. I&#8217;m enjoying working on my app. gr8 work from Microsoft.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: zomara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zomara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just when I&#039;m almost tempted by the imminent release of the Droid X, another WinPhone 7 glorious review... I&#039;d really like to replace my aging Motorola Q NOW, but I&#039;d really like a Zune phone...

So given all the wonderful features of the OS, the big question is what are the Samsungs, Motorolas, and HTC&#039;s etc. gonna look and work like? Will they be up to to the job at hand, or will it take another year for the vendors to sort their bugs out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just when I&#8217;m almost tempted by the imminent release of the Droid X, another WinPhone 7 glorious review&#8230; I&#8217;d really like to replace my aging Motorola Q NOW, but I&#8217;d really like a Zune phone&#8230;</p>
<p>So given all the wonderful features of the OS, the big question is what are the Samsungs, Motorolas, and HTC&#8217;s etc. gonna look and work like? Will they be up to to the job at hand, or will it take another year for the vendors to sort their bugs out?</p>
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		<title>By: gpsarakis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gpsarakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anyone is to blame for the KIN not selling well it&#039;s Verizon, imo,  MS could&#039;ve added a few apps (calander) but that&#039;s the ONLY area it was a bit weak in, nothing else.  The hardware was solid and it looked good and worked good as well.  Also the price for the phones was pretty cheap as well.  If Verizon had went with a data plan for $40 or $45 then the KIN would&#039;ve sold just fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is to blame for the KIN not selling well it&#8217;s Verizon, imo,  MS could&#8217;ve added a few apps (calander) but that&#8217;s the ONLY area it was a bit weak in, nothing else.  The hardware was solid and it looked good and worked good as well.  Also the price for the phones was pretty cheap as well.  If Verizon had went with a data plan for $40 or $45 then the KIN would&#8217;ve sold just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: brentcoco</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NOW I&#039;m excited.  I hope MS pushes big with a &#039;top-tier&#039; phone similar to what Google did with the Nexus One.  With better fit/finish ala the iPhones.

I&#039;m actually building an Core i7 desktop with Windows 7 specifically for Windows Phone 7 syncing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW I&#8217;m excited.  I hope MS pushes big with a &#8216;top-tier&#8217; phone similar to what Google did with the Nexus One.  With better fit/finish ala the iPhones.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually building an Core i7 desktop with Windows 7 specifically for Windows Phone 7 syncing.</p>
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